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Re: [OS:N:] Re: k12 and red hat
- From: Jay Scherrer <jay scherrer com>
- To: open-source-now-list redhat com,David Tisdell <penguintiz yahoo com>
- Subject: Re: [OS:N:] Re: k12 and red hat
- Date: Thu Mar 6 21:20:28 2003
So; Go ahead.
I don't understand what all the fuss is about.
I buy RH linux through their web, I'm only a small guy.
They give me a Purchase Order after my check clears.
Whats the deal?
Jay
On Thursday 06 March 2003 02:14 pm, David Tisdell wrote:
> Colin,
> My main cause of concern is that Red Hat doesn't want
> to sell to schools using a PO unless they are spending
> big bucks. I seldom need the support option but I like
> to know that it is there if disaster strikes and I
> can't solve it on my own. I agree Linux is stable and
> usually just runs.
> Prior to my getting very frustrated with Red Hat, I
> felt like I wanted to do the right thing and
> financially support a product I really liked but they
> don't want my institutions money and they are not
> going to get any of me personal funds either until
> they become more school friendly. Even though you can
> download the iso's for free, I don't object to people
> trying to make a living and my experience with RHN has
> been very good but folks have sent me other options
> for keeping my systems up to date and I probably will
> use one of them rather than beating my head against a
> wall with a company that doesn't want to talk to me. I
> really liked the security advisories that RHN provided
> and the fact that RHN usually solved package
> dependencies for you. I have been through the chains
> of dependency hell when trying to update some packages
> manually. It is time consuming and not a whole lot of
> fun when you have impatient users knocking on your
> door.
> Dave
>
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:34:30 -0800
> > From: Colin Mattoon <cjm2 lewiston com>
> > To: open-source-now-list redhat com
> > Subject: Re: [OS:N:] K12 and Red Hat
> > Reply-To: open-source-now-list redhat com
> >
> > On Wed, 5 Mar 2003 17:24:40 -0800 (PST)
> > David Tisdell <penguintiz yahoo com> wrote:<various
> > concerns about
> > RedHat support for schools -- which I clipped for
> > brevity>
> >
> > I'd ask myself this...If I'm running a handful of
> > Linux servers, do
> > they take so much administrative effort that I
> > really need RedHat's
> > assistance?
> >
> > With, or without, RedHat's help, you still have to
> > be the sysadmin.
> > My own experience with Linux (private sector, not a
> > school) is that
> > there really isn't much for an outside support
> > provider to help with.
> >
> > And, as an IT guy working for a school in the "Year
> > of Our Trashed
> > Economy, 2003," you don't have a whole lot of money
> > to play with
> > anyway.
> >
> > So, pick a distribution you like on the basis of
> > it's technical
> > features and get it for free by downloading it, or
> > for a few dollars
> > by buying a cheap book with an unofficial download
> > version on a CD in
> > the back cover. Go crazy with what you get for free
> > and don't worry
> > about supporting the company, because you're working
> > for an
> > educational institution in a country that isn't
> > funding your work
> > properly in the first place.
> >
> > One of the reasons the support model hasn't made a
> > bunch of Linux
> > companies rich, is that people discover they don't
> > need much support
> > with an OS as stable as Linux, and once they learn
> > enough about Linux
> > to deploy it, they can provide their own support.
> >
> > Just my thoughts, but I take care of a number of
> > Linux servers myself,
> > and outside support was one of the things I was
> > looking to avoid when
> > I chose Linux over the proprietary alternatives.
> >
> > Later,
> > Colin Mattoon
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --__--__--
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 08:03:42 -0500
> > From: Kevin Cole <kjcole gri gallaudet edu>
> > To: open-source-now-list redhat com
> > Subject: Re: [OS:N:] K12 and Red Hat
> > Organization: Gallaudet Research Institute
> > Reply-To: open-source-now-list redhat com
> >
> >
> > --GZVR6ND4mMseVXL/
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> >
> > On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 07:34:30PM -0800, Colin
> >
> > Mattoon wrote:
> > > One of the reasons the support model hasn't made a
> >
> > bunch
>
> === message truncated ===
>
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